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A Rainbow Correction
BUUUT, despite my grumblings about Tokenism, I still think that the opening of the Rainbow Room is a positive step forward for the Queer community in New Zealand. In essence the NZ Government is saying 'look, we know we persecuted you guys for your lifestyle choices in the past, and we know that we denied you guys rights that you as citizens were entitled because of your lifestyle choice. We are deeply sorry for this, so here is a small token to honour your contribution to society and to say that never again will your legitimacy as full citizens be compromised'. And I think that I would be correct in saying, if you take the hateful, spiteful Muppets of Richard Lewis's 'Family Party' out of the equation (and I wish I could), that the vast majority of New Zealanders would recognise the legitimate claims to citizenship that the Rainbow Community have. (This does not mean that all New Zealanders morally agree with all aspects of their lifestyles, but there is agreement that Rainbow New Zealands should not be persecuted for living this way).
Which is why I was surprised with the readers comments on this article . It seems that New Zealanders did have a problem with the Rainbow Room for two very different, quite baseless reasons.
The first reason was that 'ZOMG, Inflation has hit 5% and there is a war in Georghanistaraq - Now isn't the time to worry about silly little things like rooms for trannies'. It seems to be a common argument, especially amongst the right, that issues of citizenship do not carry nearly as much policy weight as important stuff like the economy and defence. The idea is that stuff will be dealt with in due course, but lets wait for a day when Parliament doesn't have anything else to do. Like maybe one day when it is raining. My response to this is that issues take on a differing levels of importance depending on your proximity and effect to them. That's why I'm way more excited about debates about a universal student allowance than my Grandma is, and why my Grandma is more worried about the rising price of spinach, starch and cat food than I am. For a straight, white Anglo-Saxon male like me and John Key, of course the issue of gay rights takes a back seat to pocketbook issues. But when your rights as a citizen are fundamentally limited because the goverment has decided that YOU are unacceptable to them, then not being discrimated against becomes fundamentally important. The Rainbow Room, for homosexuals who were forced to hide their homosexuality from the law prior to 1986, is an expression that those dark days will never come again and is the culmination of a long fight.
The second responseI found on the Stuff article, was more troubling. It was the view espoused by many heterosexual white males that if there was a room for gays, a room for Asians, and a room for chicks, why couldnt they have a room too? And on that note, Why couldnt there be a room which celebrated the nuclear, 2 parents - 2 kids family? I have two responses to this. My first is that Im sure if there was sufficient public interest in getting a 'family room' or a 'Barry Crump memorial room', Parliament would act on these wishes. But the fact there isn't, and hasn't been sorta reflects the fact why there shouldnt be a room at all. My second response is that all select committee rooms reflect parliamentary recognition of the contribution of groups in society that were previously discriminated against by law. Samoan families were raided in the seventies. Chinese had to pay a poll tax. Maori land was confiscated. Women couldnt vote. Homosexuality was once illegal. White heterosexual males have not been discrimated against by law, the law in fact for much of history has been based on the moral valuations of white heterosexual males - and what they do or do not find distasteful. While a 'male room' may satisfy the strictest definition of equality, it is a slap in the face to groups that have suffered past discrimination and compromises attempts to redress this.
So we should salute the Rainbow Room, and the statement it makes about the progressive values of New Zealand. To do otherwise - well, as my little sister would say...its a bit 'gay' of you, really.
4 comments:
This is a laugh:
http://vicdebsoc.blogspot.com/2008/09/on-gay-marriage.html
In regards to your responses to the following: "It was the view espoused by many heterosexual white males that if there was a room for gays, a room for Asians, and a room for chicks, why couldn't they have a room too?"
Your 1st response is a little unsatisfying: no matter who the group is, if there ought to be a room for them (or whatever), there should be a room for them. That is, the absence of demand isn't sufficient for something not getting done that should be done.
Your 2nd response is more interesting. Do you think it could become the case that white male heterosexuals would deserve a room (or whatever)? By that I mean, is it possible for "reverse racism" or "reverse sexism" (which seems to be more tolerated) could make a significant enough disparity in equality such that it would be the case that something would need to be done about it? How much of problem/concern do you think this is?
And lastly I'm curious about your view as to why you think this is the case that "while a 'male room' may satisfy the strictest definition of equality, it is a slap in the face to groups that have suffered past discrimination and compromises attempts to redress this." It seems as if your suggesting that total equality is a perversion of what equality is ultimately after. Is that right? My worry here may just be an adapted objection to affirmative action... I dunno... just wanna understand your views better...
Paul - its late, and Im replying to you in the hope it will make my insomnia go away. So go easy on me if this filled with logical dead-ends.
on your 1st point, yeah your right. Demand isnt, nor should it be a factor when deciding whether sub-cultures should have special things reserved for them. If it was then rainbow rooms, womens urinals and Nunavut wouldnt exist.
on your second point, no I dont think its a possibilty. If you look at society, or perhaps more importantly if you look at the law that underpins society its been drafted, enforced and interpreted by straight, white heterosexual males for most of the history of history. Look at stuff like the European understanding of property (i found it,i own it, I can do what i want with it) vs the indigenous peoples understanding of property (its ours, were part of it, we must cherish it, just to give one example. Right now, stuff like 'rainbow rooms' serve a function of saying 'we're sorry for what we did' and/or 'hey, thanks for playing by the rules we set'. Unless there is ever a stage when the law and societal culture is not underpinned by the value systems of SWM (straight white man), then arguments about reverse racism sound to me like the kid who complains because he is not allowed to play with ALL the toys.
And on your last point, guess it depends on your definition of equality. If it is that there is one set of strict standards that must apply to all, then yes - it is unequal. But I guess what affirmative action tries to do is a) get minorities who were wronged in the past up to the same position as the majority enjoys (so that are not disadvantaged in some way when they do work within the one standard) and b) it realises that cultures have different ways of doing things, and if we are going to acknowledge the legitimacy of a culture, then society should also allow that culture its differences. I dont think that a perversion of equality, its a victory for equity.
I think thats a wider discussion though - but hope I kinda made my views clearer.
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